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#1 E-Day

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 09:54 AM

I am just curious as to why RetroMags decided to make the files CBR files instead of PDFs? I almost never see .cbr files unless it's a comic book. It's always PDF.

Just curious :)

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 10:02 AM

I am just curious as to why RetroMags decided to make the files CBR files instead of PDFs? I almost never see .cbr files unless it's a comic book. It's always PDF.

Just curious :)



I don't think its a decision of one over another, Most people asked for .cbr releases.....If we had more people that could help out we would do dual format releases. I even expressed this fact in the "Positions Available" thread

http://www.retromags...?showtopic=2234

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 11:02 AM

I'd say the overall quality and ease of use.

Since CBR files are simply image folders which are zipped or rarred and renamed to .cbr it's easy to extract the files and get to the jpegs.

A lot of the time there are problems with compression when jpegs are turned into a PDF, which doesn't happen in a CBR.
I could write a whole page of examples why I prefer CBR over PDF, but to be honest, I'm pretty lazy. :tongue:

I just think of it as a much cleaner format.

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 02:16 PM

I agree with meppi. Being able to extract the jpegs without difficulty is great. I also think PDFs are a bit larger in MB size. Seems I remember way back checking that out before joining this site.

My only wish was that the CBR was searchable, but that just gets complicated, so I will settle and be glad for just having hard copies.


I'd say the overall quality and ease of use.

Since CBR files are simply image folders which are zipped or rarred and renamed to .cbr it's easy to extract the files and get to the jpegs.

A lot of the time there are problems with compression when jpegs are turned into a PDF, which doesn't happen in a CBR.
I could write a whole page of examples why I prefer CBR over PDF, but to be honest, I'm pretty lazy. :tongue:

I just think of it as a much cleaner format.



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Posted 12 December 2007 - 02:45 PM

Interesting. I know almost nothing about CBR files except that they are compressed archives with their extension changed.

I only asked because PDF is a more universal file type. I can always extract the JPEGS from an issue and make a PDF out of them and see what happens. Ultimately the best quality and smallest file size is the most important thing :). Making a PDF from JPEGS is easy peasy, so if dual formats were wanted, it would be a breeze to do.

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 03:58 PM

Interesting. I know almost nothing about CBR files except that they are compressed archives with their extension changed.

I only asked because PDF is a more universal file type. I can always extract the JPEGS from an issue and make a PDF out of them and see what happens. Ultimately the best quality and smallest file size is the most important thing :). Making a PDF from JPEGS is easy peasy, so if dual formats were wanted, it would be a breeze to do.



I have no problem with anyone creating a .pdf release from one of the .cbr releases. I know its kinda easy to just import images into Adobe, but the one thing I did like about .pdf's is that you could hotlink the table of contents to the corresponding page number.

Also since .cbr format almost always comes out first, all you need to do is change maybe 3 lines of the .nfo release file.

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File Format
Release Date

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 06:58 PM

I just gave it a whirl. I tried with EGM Issue 33, which is 116 megs. The PDF with compression set to best quality was 120 megs. So it's almost the same size.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 04:41 PM

I like cbr because they don't take a bloated, resource hogging Adobe program to open and peruse them.
Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 11:31 PM

Adobe Reader isn't bloated. Nor is it resource-hogging.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:13 AM

It is when you need Reader 6.0 or better and you're still running an old computer like I am.
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 10:38 AM

That's not bloatedness though. That's outdatedness :). Or something. CBRs seem easy to deal with, but from what I can tell, I can't jump to a certain page number like I can with Adobe Reader.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 10:55 AM

That's not bloatedness though. That's outdatedness :). Or something. CBRs seem easy to deal with, but from what I can tell, I can't jump to a certain page number like I can with Adobe Reader.



I think each has its pro's and con's

Again I am not against .pdf files, I just dont personally have the time to create 2 releases for each magazine I scan.

If anyone wants to take it upon themselves to create .pdf files of each magazine, I will give them the information needed to upload the pdf's to this website.

I have enough room for 1000 magazines to be stored :)

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 11:53 AM

That's not bloatedness though. That's outdatedness :). Or something. CBRs seem easy to deal with, but from what I can tell, I can't jump to a certain page number like I can with Adobe Reader.


Well, actually you can. Simply open a cbr, then right-click on it and choose page movement control.
From there you can go to thumbnails or use the slider to go to a specific page.
I wish the thumbnail option would work faster though, or at least be able to save them once you've loaded them before.

I also use a couple of settings which I like, such as :

-Image sizing options:

Fit Width (C+W)
Rotate Scroll Functions

-Color Balance:

Everything off. (otherwise everything looks washed out)

-Yellow Reduction:

set to off

-Program settings:

Forward 2 pages in 2 page mode
backwards 2 pages in 2 page mode
Page buffer size: 8 (improves loading new pages)


You can also push F1 when you have CDisplay open to view a help page which explains all the settings.



Oh, and when I have to use PDFs, I use Foxit reader (http://www.foxitsoftware.com/), which works much faster on my system, as I also have lots of trouble with Adobe Reader.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 04:07 PM

Oh yeah, I keep meaning to look up Foxit, but I can never remember to when I have the time (like now I'm on my way out).

I'm going to try those settings in CDisplay too. Even though I usually use PicWalker, it doesn't handle large volumes very well and sometimes crashes. I've tried GonVisor too, but my computer doesn't always like that one either.
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 05:19 PM

That's pretty awesome. I didn't know CDisplay had those functions. Personally I see no change with the colour settings, but that thumbnail function is great :)

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:18 PM

Gonna jump on the CBR bandwagon here. I've used both CBRs and PDFs for reading comics and i much prefer the CBR format. It's a bit sleeker resource-wise, you have access to the jpegs and I like the CDisplay interface better too for most uses.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:22 PM

I rather view using the default winxp viewer. For all you PDF users, Foxit really helps in viewing, loading times are so short that overall it's a better viewer than Adobe. I do get some glitches when viewing texts sometimes, but for images in PDF format it's great.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 11:02 AM

I think each has its pro's and con's

Again I am not against .pdf files, I just dont personally have the time to create 2 releases for each magazine I scan.

If anyone wants to take it upon themselves to create .pdf files of each magazine, I will give them the information needed to upload the pdf's to this website.

I have enough room for 1000 magazines to be stored :)


I interested in helping with the conversion from .cbr to .pdf.
How do I have to proceed?

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 08:40 AM

I was wondering why CBR format too, I thought PDF would be much better suited..

If anyone knows about PDF readers, what is the best one?

I've read that Foxit Reader is faster and lighter than Adobe Reader or Acrobat Professional. It doesn't seem any faster with the things I'm viewing, but it's definately quicker to install. Adobe takes ages.

I would switch from Adobe but something's keeping me from doing that.

I've got them both set up to view pages facing. Adobe Acrobat puts the first page at the top-right and the following pages (2 and 3) on the left and the right. That setting looks best for magazine scans.

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Foxit doesn't do that (or doesn't seem to be able to as there's hardly any options) and puts the 1st page (the cover) on the left and page 2 to the right of it. This buggers up the look of the whole magazine.

What can I do?

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Posted 08 March 2008 - 08:52 AM

Please keep these as CBR, PDF is horrible



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